Petrucci JP6 or F1 sound?

[martyhk0]

I am looking for everyone's feedback on what the difference in sound may be, considering the different construction and woods used on the JP6 vs. the F1.

I am going to place an order and I can't decide which one. I personally have no preference as to the look, because i like the great colors as much as a flame/quilt top. So (excluding the price factor) it comes down to sound.

If you know anything about the redesigned controls, that info would also be helpful.

Please weigh in with your opinion.

[GWDavis28]

Well the F1 has the mahogony tone block, so I would venture to guess that it sounds very much like a 20th Silhouette. But this is a guess. Have you tried a 20th yet? If not, try to locate one and play it.

Glenn |B)

[jagged]

Glenn, you really like the silo eh

[GWDavis28]

Yah man, like Pete and BP have been saying, it's just the best man. If you dig the silo the 20th will blow you away.

Glenn |B)

[SteveB]

You'll only get guesses here, because nobody owns an F-1 yet except for Mr. Petrucci. I don't think the first production ones will ship until sometime in the fall.

[roburado]

My take on it is this. I think Glenn is probably right when he says that the 20th Anniversary Silo and the F-1 will have similar sonic characteristics. So, I'm expecting a cross between the JP and the 20th, both of which I have. To me, it's going to be the "child" of the JP6 and the 20th. So, I expect it to have characteristics of both and a few of its own.

I made the choice to get an F-1 instead of a 2007LE, because Blue Dawn, as spectacular as it is, is not going to make a bit of difference in terms of sound. So, a JP6 2007 LE will sound like most JP6s. I figure that I've already got one of those. Granted, it's not fully loaded, but still, it's a JP6. The F-1 will be a different animal. The F-1 will be significantly more expensive, but I think it will be worth having a guitar that is basically my two favorite guitars rolled into one with a few extra tricks up its sleeve. I've never played an F-1. So, I don't really know what it's going to sound like, but I really expect it to sing and have a whole lot of punch. Those are the things I associate with the 20th Ann. Silo.

The only thing different about the controls AFAIK is the push/pull pot that will turn on all four of the pickup coils simultaneously. Reportedly, the guitar sounds huge.

[robelinda2]

wouldnt the pickups themselves have more say in the tone than the mahogany tone block? i'm assuming the pickups are every different in the 20th Silo than in the F-1.

[candid_x]

Originally Posted by robelinda2

wouldnt the pickups themselves have more say in the tone than the mahogany tone block? i'm assuming the pickups are every different in the 20th Silo than in the F-1.

You read my mind, Rob.

My guess is, the tone block would give the guitar a more "buttery" feel/sound (based only on 20th clips I've heard), maybe a tad more midrange. But I'd think, as you've said, different pickups in each model would make a big difference.

[darchirnoj]

I know I may take some heat for this comment. I'll say this, while density characteristics of body and neck wood color the sound of the guitar, I'm under the impression (based on limited experience), that the overall sound of the guitar is more influenced by such things as: scale length, pickups, and string guage.
I know, I know, there are other factors too such as bridge type, nut type, etc.
This is just my opinion.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot...........your fingers!!!!!!!!!!

[roburado]

Originally Posted by candid_x

You read my mind, Rob.

My guess is, the tone block would give the guitar a more "buttery" feel/sound (based only on 20th clips I've heard), maybe a tad more midrange. But I'd think, as you've said, different pickups in each model would make a big difference.

I'm sort of expecting a buttery JP.

[candid_x]

Originally Posted by roburado

I'm sort of expecting a buttery JP.

I hope you'll let us know.

[roburado]

Of course. I think there will be some people who will be able to tell you before I will, though.

[adamrogo]

Cross your fingers for July people!

I promise pics galore!

[jeffrey]

Originally Posted by robelinda2

wouldnt the pickups themselves have more say in the tone than the mahogany tone block? i'm assuming the pickups are every different in the 20th Silo than in the F-1.

Sort of.

The body wood being Alder instead of Basswood in conjunction with the Mahog block are going to add a lot of mids/lower-mids. Basswood kind of has a natural mid-scoop. I think JP was probably looking for a bit of a smooth mid punch to make his leads sing a bit more.

The newer pickups I bet are mostly dealing with the wood change.

Overall, I found the new pickup that I played in an '06 LE JP7 to not really sound any different. If anything, just a bit hotter.

My $.02 at least.

[GHWelles]

Doesn't the F-1 have a mahogany neck? I would think this would make it sound significantly warmer than the 20th Silo with Maple neck.