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Old 11-14-2008, 08:03 AM
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Tomorrow new amp->help needed!!

Hi everyone!!
Tomorrow I'm going to a big music store because I want to get a new amp.
At the moment I'm playing my jp through my mesa dual rectifier head, and a 4x12 marshall cab.
I was QUITE happy with the sound at the beginning, but now I'm really not.
Great amp for heavy metal rhythm, but for soloing it's just not my thing..not enough punch, and the sound is WAAAAAAAAAAAYYY too concentrated on low and high frequencies.
So, I decided to change it.
What I'm looking for is an amp with LOTS of gain, but a LOAD of punch and warm tones, with lots of mids.
The other night I played through a peavey triple x, and boy did that head sound great with just the jp connected to the input!!!
lots and lots of punch, gain, and the guitar just sang when playing leads!!!!

So, that's the kind of sound I'm looking for.
I heard some clips of the peavey 6505 on youtube and that also seems like a great amp, and so does the engl invader and powerball (but I've never tried them).

What amps would you guys sugest I tried first?
I know the best thing would be just to try them all, but it would be good to know some amps I should be looking out for.

thank you

ps: don't say mesa mark 4, they are impossible to find here in italy
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I think you should try amps with EL34 if you like the mids...

Go with Hughes & Kettner Triamp,... HUGE sound, very organic

Or ENGL, try the INVADER... and it's full MIDI.... or if you have the money, the SE670 with EL 34!!!

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Old 11-14-2008, 08:41 AM
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Hai mai sentito parlare della Hughes and Kettner? sono degli ampli fantastici. Se no' in alternativa per un suono potente e allo stesso tempo vintage vatti a provare uno dei nuovi Orange o un Vox tutto valvolare.

buona fortuna.

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Old 11-14-2008, 09:07 AM
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Hai mai sentito parlare della Hughes and Kettner? sono degli ampli fantastici. Se no' in alternativa per un suono potente e allo stesso tempo vintage vatti a provare uno dei nuovi Orange o un Vox tutto valvolare.

buona fortuna.

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Old 11-14-2008, 09:17 AM
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I play my Petruccis through a H&K Switchblade Head with a H&K Celestion V30 4x12 cab.

Needless to say I love this combination!
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:36 AM
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Since you mentioned ENGL, what about the Steve Morse model? Gobs of gain, looks pretty versatile and strong in the mids.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:51 AM
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I called in today and they said that they'll give me 1400€ for my dual, so I can buy any amp up to 1400€.
I'm really digging the tone of the 6505+, at least from what I hear on youtube, and a new one only costs 1200€.

what do you think of the 6505+?
anybody here plays one with the jp?
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:53 AM
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Since you mentioned ENGL, what about the Steve Morse model? Gobs of gain, looks pretty versatile and strong in the mids.
hmmm, i actually never thought about the steve morse model..I'll give it a shot tomorrow!
thanks for the heads up
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:56 AM
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Laney GH50L with proper tube and speaker compliment. No need to break the bank for great tone(s). Enormously versatile.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:23 PM
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I had my heart set on buying a mesaboogie roadking series 2 but the 'Mesa' range are very expensive here in europe.

I heard a lot of good things about the engl amps recently are there much more affordable than the mesa boogies.

best of luck and let us know how you get on mate.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:29 PM
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Not to sound like an ass, but if you liked the Triple X, why not go with that?
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Not to sound like an ass, but if you liked the Triple X, why not go with that?
I was wondering why nobody asked yet
I like the triple x, but I don't like it enough for it to be my amp....
I'm looking for something a bit different, also because the other guitarist in the band has the triple x so I want something different...
anyway, tomorrow I'm going to try as many as I can.

I'll let you know
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Since you mentioned ENGL, what about the Steve Morse model? Gobs of gain, looks pretty versatile and strong in the mids.
+1 on the Engle Morse Head. Amazing amp. One of my buddies has one and it sounds incredible. Its got me gassing for one now. Its versatile as hell and every setting I tried it at, I couldn't get a bad tone out of it.

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Old 11-14-2008, 01:44 PM
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On my wishlist of amps to try are the Peavey JSX and the Mesa Boogie Roadster. The Roadster is basically a dual rectifier with two more channels, so you might want to skip that one, but the JSX should be worth checking out. It should be somewhat similar to the XXX. I've never really tried any of these, that's why they are on my list
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