Glad EB uses Indian rosewood...

[brownpants69]

I don't jump in on that many threads, but I felt I had to join in with this. Why is it that I don't recall seeing that many environment related threads here, yet when Gibson are in the mire, people are casting aspersions about there business practise, when we don't know all the facts or details?

Remember there are actual people that work for that company who if Gibson does go down **** creek in this recession, will be out of work. I know they get peoples backs up- I know the Gibson Hendrix Strat and piano was a big Faux Pas, and I know it's daft having signature-signature guitars (Justin Hawkins Les Paul anyone?!), but really there is no need to gloat when rival companies get into difficulty.

Let us all sit safe in the knowledge that we play some of the finest production guitars in existence, and remember how certain big companies are important for the EBMM family... We don't want everyone to know about the guitar worlds best kept secret... shhhh!!!



Here is something to think about- one of my acoustics has by todays standards highly rare wood (Rio bridge etc, brazilian mahogany body). Even though the wood is AT LEAST 50 years old, If I travelled through customs with it could it be taken from me?

[Big Poppa]

Expression is good within reason. I just would love for everyone to hang in the center for awhile and then we can decide how we want to deal with it.

But what have I done to deserve mentioning that there are no environment threads here?
Maybe because we have won awards before it was trendy? Maybe because we voluntarily submit to inspections?

[lenny]

BP has spent a fortune looking for OTHER renewable sources for his guitars,and won awards... and the environmental impact the guitar industry has on the Earth is a major one.........He also made a guitar that just SCREAMS take care of our earth for Nigel Tufnel....Its Guitar industry news... thats why its here....and you will notice that BP is staying neutral and saying for us to do the same until they have their day in court.....but i Agree on the "Signature" signature guitars ...Bonamassa and Slash also have them...as far as Gibsons financial woes ....look around lots of jobs everywhere are going down the toilet....and yip we do have the finest guitars on the planet ....so i am VERY happy that its not Music man in the headlines for this......I dont think its something that BP and Co. would do....

[Big Poppa]

If they did it. Remember Microsoft raided me, publically humiliated me and were wrong....hard to unring a bell. Stay in the middle but pay attention

[Spudmurphy]

Don't mess with the Government
But let's just wait for the whole story to be told.

[Kaloyan]

Update 5:26 p.m.: It was the United States Fish & Wildlife Service, not the FBI. Also, no charges have been filed.

[Jimmyb]

Originally Posted by lenny

BP has spent a fortune looking for OTHER renewable sources for his guitars,and won awards... and the environmental impact the guitar industry has on the Earth is a major one.........He also made a guitar that just SCREAMS take care of our earth for Nigel Tufnel....Its Guitar industry news... thats why its here....and you will notice that BP is staying neutral and saying for us to do the same until they have their day in court.....but i Agree on the "Signature" signature guitars ...Bonamassa and Slash also have them...as far as Gibsons financial woes ....look around lots of jobs everywhere are going down the toilet....and yip we do have the finest guitars on the planet ....so i am VERY happy that its not Music man in the headlines for this......I dont think its something that BP and Co. would do....

It's a good point to make about the constant search for renewable alternatives. It's one of the things that I really love about EBMM, that they're not content to sit on the past methods of construction and material usage and are always on the look out for new techniques and materials to use.

I hope that one day they finally find the magic ingredient that has both the sound we're after and the sustainability for future years.

[PeteDuBaldo]

I'm not judging, but I am saying that it must be a huge headache dealing with an event like that, no matter the outcome.

That being said, I cut down 5 trees in front of my house before work this morning, none of which were Rosewood from Madagascar.

[leftyguitarblue]

Originally Posted by Big Poppa

there is no reason to shut down the thread....I just hope you would put yourselves in Gibsons shoes and if they are innocent that someone would let due process happen.

How many times does this forum get riled up over something without considering the other side? Lets all be fair and hope that Gibson is innocent. ITs better karma

I was just saying that I felt a "bashing vibe" coming that's all. I agree that we need to let the courts and the law figure this one out. Being judged before all the facts are present sucks.

[SteveB]

I'll bet that until this investigation runs its course, all the guitars they're building will be 'distressed'.

[leftyguitarblue]

Originally Posted by SteveB

I'll bet that until this investigation runs its course, all the guitars they're building will be 'distressed'.

Nice...
(insert rimshot here)

[Luiz Gustavo]

Better could be Brazillian Rosewood (better quality), but it's forbidden by a Brazillian Federal Law in 1994.

[Big Poppa]

Lets alsp not attack because we think that swomeone may start bashing gibson...especially by taking a shot at us

[ScoobySteve]

I'm gonna have to go with Brown and BP here.

It's in our nature as Knuckleheads to somewhat take the misfortunes of a competing company as a means to celebrate the benefits and privileges we have here.

But I've never seen any good use in celebrating because of another person or company's misfortunes, even if they are in the wrong in the end.

Everyone makes mistakes, and bashing because they do is pretty hypocritical. Just have to sit back, let due process and justice take its course and hope all that needs to be done is done.

[Big Poppa]

very little bashing maybe some premature judging